Notes mid July

"...skipping backward only 200 years, and much closer to our time, another historical moment celebrated the virtual to produce the first elaborate virtual environments – often in the form of the interior decoration of churches. This indulgence in trompe-l’œil contrasted with the disloca- tion and wars of eighteenth-century Europe, the first state powers asserting a harmonious, ecstatic world, in part as an expression of their power. These simulations were made to appear to defy gravity.



The heady lure of these mystical works is based on their elaborate continuities of human and fictive space. . . . They pair techniques involving the creation of a dreamscape, and the provision of [human] figures for identification that call the viewer to enter fictive space, changing with their movements, inviting their co-authorship. They are fundamentally navigable... ‘spaces of persuasion’. 

the history of electronic communication is less the evolution of technical efficiencies in communication than a series of arenas for negotiating issues crucial to the conduct of social life; among them, who is inside and outside, who may speak, who may not, and who has authority and may be believed. 


The pyschological, museum and archeological metaphors by which the past is conceived.... tend to transform the temporal into the spatial and are intensely visual. Layers are excavated, veils lifted, screens removed. As such the recall of socially and effectively charged events involve a social organisation of a present space (struc- tured encounters with a site, even tours or processions), with specified stopping-places and actions (ablutions, obsequities, gestures and readings) and time (seasonal ceremonies), as well as an historical space and time (Kirmayer 1989). Memory is reconstructed anew each time through secular rituals of for example the systematic, often guided, tour in which the site is ‘framed’ by discourse. The position of the viewer may be left in question or explicitly positioned, but there is always a space, a distance, between the spectator and her memory. 


From The Virtual by Rob Shields
 

fassbinder and bataille





G. Bataille (from eroticism, chapter -de Sade and normal man )
… The extremes are called civilization and barbarism- or savagery. But the use of these words is misleading, for they imply that there are barbarians on the one hand and civilized men on the other. The distinction is that civilized men speak and barbarians are silent, and the man who speaks is always the civilized man. To put it more precisely, since language is by definition the expression of civilized man, violence is silent. Many consequences result from that bias of language. Not only does ‘civilized’ usually mean ‘us’, and barbarous ‘them’, but also civilization and language grew as though violence was something outside, foreign not only to civilization but also to man, man being in the same thing as language. Yet observation shows that the same people are alternately barbarous and civilized in their attitudes. All savages speak and by speaking they reveal their solidarity with decency and kindness that are the root of civilization. Conversely all civilized men who rate themselves as among the most highly civilized of our age. If language is to be extricated from the impasse, we must declare that violence belong to humanity as a whole and as speechless, and that thus humanity as a whole lies by omission and language itself is founded upon this lie.
Violence is silent and de Sade’s use of language is contradiction in terms

Common language will not express violence. It treats it as a guilty and importunate thing and disallows it by denying it any function or any excuse. If violence does occur, and occur it will, it is explained by a mistake somewhere, just as men of backwards civilizations think that death can only happen if someone makes it by magic or otherwise. Violence in advanced societies and death in backwards ones are not just given, like a storm or flood; they can only be the result of something going wrong.
But silence cannot do away with things that language cannot state. Violence is as stubbornly there just as much as death, and if language cheats to conceal universal annihilation, the placid work of time, language alone suffers, language is the poorer, not time and not violence.
Useless and dangerous violence cannot be abolishes by irrational refusals to have any truck with it, any more that the irrational refusals to treat with death can eliminate that. but the expression of violence comes up against the double opposition of reason which denies it and of violence itself which clings to a silent contempt for the words used about it. 


i had a scene in my head- you read the foucalt scene and i will have a huge piece of meat on the flour and i will cut it in pieces rhythmically. i would love to have a hummer. may be this is too literally , but may be other-way around by being literally and doing it for real it can evoke different thoughts. the pleasure of violence and breaking of taboo.  it is also very sexual.  

Joe - video


Notes from last conversation

aggression

spokes in a wheel

subtle


an album

story telling

and performative


foucault thing

no one development

rather eclectic

how much you can take

how much you don’t get bored

feel sorry

becomes statistic

whole peice speaking of viollence things
but in very documentative thing
how long can it touch  you
violent stories

issues of compression


like a list of things


things we discussed
soft violence
maybe we can find no more concrete examples

not obvious things


aggressive behaviour towards an indvidual

the super power


the law the queen the god

the exception

Carl Schmitt

that she didn’t do as expected as he wanted then he has the extinguish and destroy

has to do radical evil

carmen is not faulted
gypsies

how to be critical without taking victim position
be more productive in conflicts

tries to understand the gypsies

try out of understanding beyond the conflict

this exclusion -- when you feel your values are violated


carmen idea
shot reaction shot

collecting more stories

combine foucault story with carmen

re-enactment


august 30th
more stories
carmen stories



bodylesss body

addresss me


transparancy as the motivator of a bodyless body

use parts of the blog


beginning of august 1
we meet again
and research about